You're assuming that the WT leaders were rational people... What are you basing this on?
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Threat of 1980 Rebellion/Schism--Real or Perceived?
by neverendingjourney inthe way crisis of conscience lays it out, despite their reservations on doctrine, ray franz and ed dunlap would have been more than happy to live out their lives within the jw ranks without causing any disturbance.
ray was contemplating resigning from the gb and living out his life quietly somewhere outside bethel.
ed preferred to remain in bethel due to his advanced age.
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Should Tiger Woods apologize publicly to the woman he had an affair with?
by journey-on inleave it to gloria allred to grab the limelight.
she and her client, the ex-porn star, want tiger to apologize to her.
do you think he should?
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Wonderful quality RePrints of Watchtower books and Publications
by Terry inthere are a great many reasons it becomes difficult to "prove" to active jw's that the watchtower society has had an amazing series of crackpot teachings, beliefs and assertions over the years.. first off, the availability of old publications is problematic.
the society has cleverly sucked them out of the libraries of local kingdom halls.
older collectors are often dead or apostate.. ebay can provide steep asking-prices.. but--a few years back, i discovered the availability of reprints in quality self-published form on lulu.com and amazon.. these reprints are beautifully done and easier to read than an old, moth-eaten, mildew-stained yellowy tome from the early era!.
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Sorry, the average JW is afraid enough of older JW publications that were printed by the Society, they are never going to seriously look at books that are obviously and clearly reprinted editions from some place called Lulu. Obviously these are tools of apostates, they should be burned on sight.
The only people buying these are exJWs doing research for their own amusement.
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Has any Pro-JW posted here, but later became an apostate?
by asilentone inwho are they?
tell me about it.
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I'd argue that it's STILL a Pro-JW site. Most people here love JWs and are looking for ways to help them break free from the Watchtower Society.
Yeah, ponder that for a minute.
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An email from my dad
by TheSilence ini received this email from my dad today.
i have not clicked on the link or responded, nor do i intend to.
i accept that i am not going to change his mind, and i know he is not going to change mine, so i choose not to participate in debate with him in an effort to retain what little relationship i have with him.
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For what its worth, his email seems to be much less confrontational and manipulative than many others we've seen posted here. And the information he is presenting is at least somewhat relevant and from a mainstream media source. Usually its more like, "OMG a two-headed baby was born in Albania! The end is so close!!!!"*
You are probably correct though not to make a debate out of it, like you said, enjoy the relationship you have with him, even if its not perfect.
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*no offense to any two-headed Albanians on the board
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JW responses on Facebook rules from CO
by purplesofa ini know there has been threads on jw's using facebook, i thought i would post some responses from jw community i got in an email.. .
this was presented for discussion.. .
a co in our area (rochester) said that there would be no one being.
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Nancy Drew, that's an awesome post!
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Video that has been called "The Apostate Manifesto"...
by Tuesday inhey folks, so i made this video as a response to some of the youtube apostates about my vast apostate army recruitment video.
i'm getting overwhelming comments and messages regarding it and a couple people have called it "the apostate manifesto".
i figured i'd post it here for everyone to check out, i thought you all might enjoy it.
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What is 11/5/17???
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a dub at my door said my childs abuse was an isolated case !
by looloo ini left town after the court case for a fresh start , it was 18 months before dubs knocked on my door , so i told them why i was not interested in their message , aswell as the watchtower payouts in may 2007 ,with gag orders attached , they seemed quite shocked by that but warned me to be carefull what information i read on the web !
i told them that in america they do not make up the news !
they seemed quite shocked about what happened to my child but said it would have ben an isolated case !
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So its an isolated case? Does that mean that the situation was caused by elders not following JW policy on dealing with child abuse? Or did they follow the instructions exactly as laid out? If the answer is the former, then were the elders disciplined for their mishandling of the situation? If its the latter, then apparently something is wrong with their policy. So which is it? That's what I'd be asking the brain-dead dubs.
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JWs in the Noughties
by hamilcarr ineveryone seems to be making decade lists about their favourite books, cds, films etc.. what do you think are the most important, notorious, shocking, entertaining or unexpected wt articles of the last decade that anyone interested in jw'ism should have read?.
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The article from The Guardian exposing the Watchtower's connection with the UN.
And of course the response published in the Watchtower explaining why they did it. Oh wait, they never did bring it up in any of their publications, most r&f JWs still know nothing about it.
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Watchtower cleans out Kingdom Hall Library's ...
by RR inlast night i got a call from a chap in the uk, who recently left the jw's.
he wanted to compare notes with his us counterparts.. he said that a few years ago, (i think about 2 years ago) the society cleaned out all the literature from every kingdom hall, particularly russell and rutherford books and anything prior to 1950. giving each hall a computer with the watchtower cd rom for them to use for research.
he wanted to know if the same was done in the states.
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Most every Hall I have been here has had a fairly well-stocked library, some better than others of course. At one time I know the Kingdom Hall in Moorhead, MN was well-known for having a complete set of Watchtowers, all the way back. Not sure how true that was, and I don't know what happened when they built a new Hall there.
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